Friday, January 29, 2010

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THE BATTLE OF THE TALLER




Reality or legend?

Who, passing by Taller, remembers the battle that took place? Surely not many people. More people who have never heard of. It is true that the witnesses have long since disappeared and that the records are nonexistent. Only the tradition that made Heath Taller the scene of a major battle, was perpetuated in some local or scholars.

can, indeed, ignorant excuse stating that the battle 's place is there are now more than 1200 years, since she objected, about 982, William Sancho, Duke of Gascony, the invading Normans, and thus ending their rule over the country (which was then independent of the authority of
last Carolingians).

But then where does this ancient history?

First the monks of Saint-Sever. In fact, according to the narrative contained in their Cartulary, the foundation of their abbey result of a promise made by Guillaume Sancho at this battle, in recognition of the protection of the holy martyr. It would have taken a vow to erect a monastery on the place of the original chapel of the tomb of the saint protector if they win against the heathen invaders.

At the very least, the Charter confirms the holding of a battle against a third incursion of the Normans, before the foundation of the Abbey of Saint-Sever 988. Historians have almost agreed on the years 981 or 982, without some justification, so that the scholars of the Society Borda held at Dax, in September 1982, a symposium to mark the millennium of the event .

Holding dune battle being accepted, so why place it precisely Taller than elsewhere? The charter of Saint-Sever does not mention the most Taller be the date.

But it turns out that the cartulary of Saint-Pierre de Condom (first half of the eleventh century) claims possession of a relic revered, to be a cross made during the battle on a enemy leader named Airaldi, and offered to Abbey. And in the narrative of the circumstances of the donation of this cross, copyists specify that the confrontation took place in a plain called tillers, adding that this isolated spot was still littered with bleached bones over many fighters who had been killed than green grass.

These are the only two contemporary accounts referring this battle between the Duke and Count of Biscay Guilhem-Sants and the Normans (Vikings) and the place is named in the text of Condom without definite indication that this is the Taller near Castets in the Landes . And there is no text refers Norman.
Pierre Marca, in his History of Béarn in 1640 (Book III ch 7 and 8), evokes the battle but does not occur. Arnaud Ohienard in the History of the Vasconia, said that the meeting took place in an open heath ( Ricta acis in dicta planitis Talleyras ) containing perhaps the Cartulary of Condom, which states that the battle began in a lonely place . We therefore

Taller deduced that it was coming from the archaic spellings Taliare-Talleyras-Taleras-Tallet-

To date, no data or archaeological evidence does accredit all. Especially since the original stories of monks copied, compiled, plus, also a beautiful part of the legend. Thus we read that the holy martyr Saint Sever is miraculously appeared in arms on a white horse, like, a century earlier, the apostle Saint Jacques de Compostela in the battle of Clavijo alongside English Christians against the Moors). So legendary is the story of the death of Chief Airaldi after he had retired His cross protective whose powers were perpetuated in Condom.


Nevertheless, tradition is reinforced by its likelihood of settling in a neighborhood of the village, a hospital named Den Guimbaud or Guibaud, which was founded by Guibaud the brother of William Sancho, also called as bishop of Biscay. This hospital has now disappeared, whose remains are found south of the creek Escourion, was last on the eighteenth century as a stopover on the way to Tours Pilgrims Way to Santiago (from Lesperon, circa-Taller Gourbera and Dax). The hospital, at a place called Kiyo, is on the Cassini map as a chapel there ruinée.On stones removed until 1793.

Maybe that here were buried the dead of the battle, even Gombaud itself seems dead at the époque.Encore that the brother was called and the hospital named Gombaut Guibaud ... But hey! Already

the effective occupation of the Moors by the Vikings is being debated, the holding of the battle Taller raises many questions. This period of history here is very obscure.

Yet it is reported, and in this place, guide of pilgrims from the XIth century. A

when the discovery of graves or traces of fighters in the vast forest of Taller? The terrible storms of 1999 and 2009 have unearthed at least nothing like it!

T French ranslation an extract of the deed of foundation of the Abbey of St Sever

"The godless nation of Norsemen who raided the lands I hold from God by hereditary right, I came to the tomb of the holy martyr Severpour implore his protection against the barbarians, promising, if I made victorious, securing him throughout the state subject to my rule, as did Adrian King in the same country, and agree instead to build a small church that the prince had erected in his honor, a large and magnificent monastery. Who, after this vow, the battle of the troop cursed, I saw appear at the head of the mine holy martyr, riding a white horse and arms covered with bright, with which he felled thousands of these wicked and sent to hell. Reached the summit of my wishes for a final victory, I hastened to fulfill my vow ... "
Excerpt from
cartulary Condom - compiled vers1380:


click to enlarge
"Among them was a very formidable Norman called Airaldi [= Harald] who protected his breastplate and his weapons seemed invulnerable traits touched but did not hurt. Finally he was taken prisoner, and under his armor, was seen hanging around his neck the Lord's cross, when he was unworthy. Him as soon as it was removed, he died. Count [Guilhem Sants] then offered the timber carrier of life in our monastery [St-Pierre de Condom]. Since then, he brings salvation, because we recognized its virtue against fire, storm, and sprinkled with wine, in the recovery of patients. They always refer to the cross by the name of the warrior who wore it. Guilhem thus became the prince of the province .... "

Guilaume Sancho's residence was, according to Marca, the Saint-Sever Palestrion where assemblies were held.
Gombaud, brother, partner in the government of Gascony from 977, became, once widowed, "bishop of Biscay", particularly of Aire and Dax, and appears to death in 982. His son Hugh was the first abbot of Condom.

sources to consult:

BULLETIN OF THE SOCIETY OF BORDA-DAX-
WHITE (Charles), Opening the conference on the millennium of the Battle of Taller, 1983 , 4th rev., p.541-542.
Boyrie-FENIE (Benedict), The name "Taller"
1983, 4th rev. p.567-571
LARREGUE (Josette), Reflections on research Taller (October 1981),
1982, 2nd rev., p. 201-205
LARREGUE (Josette), La Fosse Guimbaud: certainty,
1983, 4th rev., P.587-596 [Taller]
Mussot-GOULARD (Renee), The Battle of Taller
1983, 4th rev., P.543-561

GAYON (John) The Battle of Bull Taller Marensin Memory of No. 12 2001 p 152-153


Thursday, January 28, 2010

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Crassus and TARUSATES









remember us! Or rather, we defer to the story of Caesar in his Commentaries on the Gallic War (Book III)
Sos en Albret (
oppidum Sontiatum
) between Nerac and St. Justin. These Sotiates deliver a cavalry battalion and an ambush that ended in failure. Forced to take refuge in their capital they are besieged and eventually capitulate (output led Adiatuanos their leader has the same place during the talks).
After this first victory, Crassus walking on land
Vocative (country Bazas) before descending to the land of Tarusates
.

The Aquitaine, warned of the rapid decline of their neighbors, and together form a coalition troops, seek the assistance of the English dominions, and prepare for resistance to prevent the enemy reaches the fertile land south of the Adour. Given the rapid setting of Sos, according to Caesar, they give aàsoutenir new seats and adopt the tactics of the fortified camps from which races are organized to intercept food. And this is probably one of those camps they congregate. They are almost 50 000.
Crassus, outnumbered, Deida to attack as soon as possible and goes into battle order. Aquitans refusing to fight the Romans assail the camp where the enemy is entrenched and consolidated. Having spotted a weakness of the fortification at the back of this camp that offers easy access point, Crassus is sending his cavalry and four cohorts all fresh, making a long detour, to steal the march. The Romans forced entry and then enter the camp by surprise. It is then routed the fleeing
Aquitaine. In rural Roman cavalry crushes the fugitives. On the night of this last fight Caesar specifies that only a quarter of the 50,000 enemy escapes. Implying 35,000 dead! the sound of this defeat, the greater part of Aquitania went to Crassus, and sends itself hostage. Among these are the Tarbell (Dax), the Bigerrions (Bigorre?), The Ptianes (Orthez?), Vocations (Bazas), the Tarusates (Aire), the Elusates (Eauze), the Gates (?), The Ausques (Auch), the Garunni (upper valley of the Garonne), the Sibuzates (Saubusse?) and Cocosates (between Lesperon and Sindères?) A few states away relying on the advanced season, fail to do so
is this second battle, which completed the conquest and submission of Aquitaine by the Romans .
Thus began the occupation ( Some authors state that four cohorts occupied the country of Tarbell and six of the Cocosates, between 56 and 27 BC)






All this happened in the late summer of the year 56 BC but where exactly?

The location of that fight is still not determined. Several distinguished authors have broken teeth on the case, sometimes with passion, ready to come to blows to support conflicting versions. Any problem stems from the difficulty of locating people with the certainty of Tarusates. Despite the apparent kinship with Tartas (which did not exist at the time of the Roman conquest), historians tend to locate along the Adour and identify them with future Aturenses at Aire sur l'Adour, in every in the case Tursan.

Hypothesis Aire sur l'Adour (Atura) s seems to press the topography of the site that allows the positioning and maneuvering of opponents of Crassus in the battle as described by Caesar. Supporters of this option (Samazeuilh-Sorbets) evoke the collective memory that has kept traces that result in the names of places that adjoin the supposed place where the bataille.Ainsi indulged, on the hill called Wood Cazamon at East, was a circular enclosure surrounded by ditches. Nearby stood a post called Castra Cesar. Back was also Mireloup of tuc. Finally, to the west, the height called Lasserre Pompey. In the center, fortified oppidum Tarusatium on the board (where the church Mas) then became Civitas Aturensium Vicus Julii. Remains to determine the destination of each of these places. No evidence of remains discovered no evidence to corroborate these assertions
Other authors (Tauzin) reply that referred to two camps near Caesar: the Roman camp housing 000 men 8 to 10, the camp Aquitaine much wider since containing 50 000 men. Moreover, these camps should be close to a large open space (
apertissimis Campis
) or the Roman cavalry pursued the defeated (thin near the word apertissimis Caesar camps commentary indicates that the battle was fought in a vast open country)
Caesar also makes no reference to the Adour flowing at the foot of Aire
The Aquitaine who refused to defend himself in their oppidum, Crassus met do so elsewhere.


Therefore Abbe Tauzin, excluding that the battle took place in area, elects to Miramont (the camp of Aquitaine) and Sarron, between St Agnes and Segos-houses between the host and Bourg God - (the Roman camp)

On this same basis, each historian space on one of the many hills of castra along the Adour. Dompnier Sauviac up to the place of the second battle of St. castra Loubouer or that of Samadet (chronicling the city of Acqs), although further away from the plain. Sorbets

situates in an area between Cazaubon, Roquefort and Saint Cricq Marsan. Camoreyt evokes a map of Robert in 1753 which contains a rectangle showing Caesar's camp on the right bank of the Twelve and Mauvezin between Cazaubon.

For others it is around Geaune. The famous Camille Jullian him up the battle to Dax or pie! (History

patina is the meal!
*
About where Crassus met with deputies from Aquitaine to submit, M Chaudruc Crazannes (New Considerations on Sotiates - Collected works of socieété of Agriculture, Science and Arts Agen-Tome VI 1852 ).... evokes an ancient tradition of the place on the village site Lannepax which offered a wide moor, which was named Lanae pax (Heath peace) it has retained.
link to
MORPHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS OF ANCIENT Plat AIRE-SUR-Article l'Adour Cédric Lavigne







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CAMPS "ROMANS OR NOT







attempt to reconstruct (excerpt of article by Mr. Juncarot - Bull. Soc. Borda-1900)

The south of the Landes, Chalosse is one of the richest region what is popularly called " Roman camps" or "Caesar
camps, which remain as the place-names Casteras. These positions fortified by a wall slope are generally placed on ridges. But they often have nothing Roman. In fact, many seem to go back to prehistoric times. Some researchers attribute to the Basques, however, and invasions of the sixth century.
AN EXAMPLE
camp of Mus to Doazit



image sources: Ph.DUBEDOUT-VIEW SITE

MOUNDS AND FORTIFIED CAMPS LISTED
course a lot today to trace more or less identifiable and visible. The landscape has changed since then!

Sources:




Gamarde ------------- ----------------------- Saint-Savin







Bonnegarde ---------------------------------------- Samadet


drawings camps and Amu Souprosse
Arengosse - Bezaudun camps and Laraillet
Aruzanx. Audignon. Aureilhan.
Aurice.

Baigts. - Three camps (Las Costes Pouy farm of-the-Moulia, and behind the church). Bégaar. - Camp-de-Bas.
Benquet - Camp Castets-Charlas
Beylongue. Biganon.

Bonnegarde
- Camp Castera


Brassempouy
Bougue -
Candresse group of mounds. - Place said Castera.

Castelnau-Chalosse
Castelner
Castets
Cazères

Cauna. - Camp John White.
Cazalis.
Cazeres on Adour

Doazit - Camp Mus
Donzacq. - Pas-de-camp to-Saubot. Duhort-Bachen - Camp Castera

Eslibeaux.
Eyres. - Casterot camp.


Gaas

Gabarret. - Bourneau camp.
Gailheres. - Camp in the district of Ricau

Gamarde
- Castera
Gaujac camp - camp in the castle garden.
Habas. - Couarde camp, a place called Sanguiñeda. pregnant and called Puyoo
Hinx. - Camp-Lous Biré-Castel, called Caesar's Camp.


Labatut.
Larbey. - Camp of Candelouts. Larriviere

- camp de Saint Savin
Lauredo.

Losse. - Camp, et autre au hameau of Lussole.
Lourquen. - Camp of Casteron.
Luglon Luxey

Maillères - camp of Menjous


Mees
Mimbaste
Misson. - Camp of Moneigt.
Montaut - camp of Casterot
Mont fort. Montgaillard
Montsou
Montgaillard. - Camp du Castera.


Narrosse.

Nerbis
- Very camp du

Onard. Pissos.
Pomarez

Pontonx. - Balambits camp.

Poyartin.

River. - Camp at La Roque Castle

Saint-Etienne-d 'Orthe
Saint-Geours d'Auribat
St. Geours de Saint-Gor Maremne St. Loubouer.
St. Pandelon. Saint Paul lès Dax

Saint-Sever - oppidum Morlanne "Castrum Caesaris" became Palestrion

Sainte-Colombe. - Castera camp.
Samadet
- Camp La Mothe



drawings Camp Samadet





Sarbazan.

Sarron St. Agnes. - Roman camp which is built Sarron.

Saubusse

Saugnac - Cambran camp.

Serres Gaston.
Sorde - Camp Laroque
Sore. - Twin camps, called Castéras lous. Souprosse - camp in the village (formerly owned Sourb)
Soustons. - Camp near the tuc la Motte


Tercis
Vielle-Saint-Girons.
Vielle-Souhiran. - Louslalot camp called the Roman Motte.

Old Boucau.
Villenave - Camp Mauviel






Roman Camp at Saint-Savin Larrivière





Roman Camp Gamarde

Gamarde - Road cutting the earthen rampart





Samadet